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diff --git a/startYACY_with_experimental_Updater.bat b/startYACY_with_experimental_Updater.bat
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+@Echo Off
+title YaCy
+
+If %1.==CPGEN. GoTo :CPGEN
+
+Rem Generating the proper classpath unsing loops and labels
+Set CLASSPATH=classes;htroot;lib/updater/YaCyUpdater_r3.jar
+For %%X in (lib/*.jar) Do Call %0 CPGEN lib\%%X
+For %%X in (libx/*.jar) Do Call %0 CPGEN libx\%%X
+
+REM Please change the "javastart" settings in the web-interface "Basic Configuration" -> "Advanced" 
+set jmx=
+set jms=
+set javacmd=-Xmx64m -Xms10m
+set priolvl=0
+set priority=/NORMAL
+if exist DATA\SETTINGS\httpProxy.conf GoTo :GETSTARTOPTS
+
+:STARTJAVA
+Rem Starting YaCy
+Echo Generated classpath:%CLASSPATH%
+Echo JRE Parameters:%javacmd%
+Echo Priority:%priority%
+
+Echo ****************** YaCy Web Crawler/Indexer ^& Search Engine *******************
+Echo **** (C) by Michael Peter Christen, usage granted under the GPL Version 2  ****
+Echo **** USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! Project home and releases: http://yacy.net/yacy ****
+Echo **  LOG of       YaCy: DATA/LOG/yacy00.log (and yacy^<xx^>.log)                **
+Echo **  STOP         YaCy: execute stopYACY.bat and wait some seconds            **
+Echo **  GET HELP for YaCy: see www.yacy-websearch.net/wiki and www.yacy-forum.de **
+Echo *******************************************************************************
+Echo  ^>^> YaCy started as daemon process. Administration at http://localhost:%port% ^<^<
+
+start "YaCy" %priority% /B /WAIT java %javacmd% -classpath %CLASSPATH% YaCyUpdater
+
+if not exist DATA\yacy.restart GoTo :END
+:WAIT
+echo Please wait...
+REM 'sleep' five seconds
+ping localhost -n 5 >NUL
+if exist DATA\yacy.running GoTo :WAIT
+del DATA\yacy.restart
+
+Rem This target is used to read java runtime parameters out of the yacy config file
+:GETSTARTOPTS
+for /F "tokens=1,2 delims==" %%i in (DATA\SETTINGS\httpProxy.conf) do (
+    if "%%i"=="javastart_Xmx" set jmx=%%j
+    if "%%i"=="javastart_Xms" set jms=%%j
+    if "%%i"=="port" set port=%%j
+    if "%%i"=="javastart_priority" set priolvl=%%j
+)
+if defined jmx set javacmd=-%jmx%
+if defined jms set javacmd=-%jms% %javacmd%
+if not defined port set port=8080
+if defined priolvl (
+    if %priolvl% == 20 set priority=/LOW
+    if %priolvl% == 10 set priority=/BELOWNORMAL
+)
+
+GoTo :STARTJAVA
+
+Rem This target is used to concatenate the classpath parts 
+:CPGEN
+Set CLASSPATH=%CLASSPATH%;%2
+
+Rem Target needed to jump to the end of the file
+:END
diff --git a/startYACY_with_experimental_Updater.command b/startYACY_with_experimental_Updater.command
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+cd `dirname $0`
+./startYACY_with_experimental_Updater.sh &
+echo "****************** YaCy Web Crawler/Indexer & Search Engine *******************"
+echo "**** (C) by Michael Peter Christen, usage granted under the GPL Version 2  ****"
+echo "**** USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! Project home and releases: http://yacy.net/yacy ****"
+echo "**  LOG of       YaCy: DATA/LOG/yacy00.log (and yacy<xx>.log)                **"
+echo "**  STOP         YaCy: execute stopYACY.sh and wait some seconds             **"
+echo "**  GET HELP for YaCy: see www.yacy-websearch.net/wiki and www.yacy-forum.de **"
+echo "*******************************************************************************"
+echo " >> YaCy started as daemon process. Administration at http://localhost:8080 <<"
+echo "    You can close this window now, this will NOT shut down your YaCy peer."
diff --git a/startYACY_with_experimental_Updater.sh b/startYACY_with_experimental_Updater.sh
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+#!/bin/sh
+JAVA="`which java`"
+LOGFILE="yacy.log"
+if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]
+then
+	echo
+	echo "For security reasons you should not run this script as root!"
+	echo
+	exit 1
+elif [ ! -x "$JAVA" ]
+then
+	echo "The java command is not executable."
+	echo "Either you have not installed java or it is not in your PATH"
+	#Cron supports setting the path in 
+	#echo "Has this script been invoked by CRON?"
+	#echo "if so, please set PATH in the crontab, or set the correct path in the variable in this script."
+	exit 1
+fi
+
+#startup YaCy
+cd "`dirname $0`"
+
+options="`getopt -n YaCy -o d,l,p,t -- $@`"
+if [ $? -ne 0 ];then
+	exit 1;
+fi
+
+isparameter=0; #options or parameter part of getopts?
+parameter="" #parameters will be collected here
+
+LOGGING=0
+DEBUG=0
+PRINTONLY=0
+TAILLOG=0
+for option in $options;do
+	if [ $isparameter -ne 1 ];then #option
+		if [ "$option" = "-l" ];then
+			LOGGING=1
+			if [ $DEBUG -eq 1 ];then
+				echo "can not combine -l and -d"
+				exit 1;
+			fi
+		elif [ "$option" = "-d" ];then
+			DEBUG=1
+			if [ $LOGGING -eq 1 ];then
+				echo "can not combine -l and -d"
+				exit 1;
+			fi
+		elif [ "$option" = "-p" ];then
+			PRINTONLY=1
+		elif [ "$option" = "-t" ];then
+			TAILLOG=1
+		fi #which option 
+	else #parameter
+		if [ x$option = "--" ];then #option / parameter seperator
+			isparameter=1;
+			continue
+		else
+			parameter="$parameter $option"
+		fi
+	fi #parameter or option?
+done
+
+#echo $options;exit 0 #DEBUG for getopts
+
+#get javastart args
+java_args=""
+if [ -f DATA/SETTINGS/httpProxy.conf ]
+then
+	# startup memory
+	for i in Xmx Xms; do
+		j=`grep javastart_$i DATA/SETTINGS/httpProxy.conf`;
+		j="${j#javastart_$i=}";
+		if [ -n $j ]; then JAVA_ARGS="-$j $JAVA_ARGS"; fi;
+	done
+	
+	# Priority
+	j=`grep javastart_priority DATA/SETTINGS/httpProxy.conf`;
+	j="${j#javastart_priority=}"
+	if [ ! -z "$j" ];then
+		if [ -n $j ]; then JAVA="nice -n $j $JAVA"; fi;
+	fi
+	
+#	for i in `grep javastart DATA/SETTINGS/httpProxy.conf`;do
+#		i="${i#javastart_*=}";
+#		JAVA_ARGS="-$i $JAVA_ARGS";
+#	done
+fi
+#echo "JAVA_ARGS: $JAVA_ARGS"
+#echo "JAVA: $JAVA"
+
+# generating the proper classpath
+CLASSPATH="lib/YaCyUpdater_r3.jar:"
+for N in lib/*.jar; do CLASSPATH="$CLASSPATH$N:"; done	
+for N in libx/*.jar; do CLASSPATH="$CLASSPATH$N:"; done
+CLASSPATH="classes:.:htroot:$CLASSPATH"
+
+
+cmdline="";
+if [ $DEBUG -eq 1 ] #debug
+then
+	cmdline="$JAVA $JAVA_ARGS -Djava.awt.headless=true -classpath $CLASSPATH yacy"
+elif [ $LOGGING -eq 1 ];then #logging
+	cmdline="$JAVA $JAVA_ARGS -Djava.awt.headless=true -classpath $CLASSPATH yacy >> yacy.log &"
+else
+	cmdline="$JAVA $JAVA_ARGS -Djava.awt.headless=true -classpath $CLASSPATH yacy &> /dev/null &"
+fi
+if [ $PRINTONLY -eq 1 ];then
+	echo $cmdline
+else
+	echo "****************** YaCy Web Crawler/Indexer & Search Engine *******************"
+	echo "**** (C) by Michael Peter Christen, usage granted under the GPL Version 2  ****"
+	echo "**** USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! Project home and releases: http://yacy.net/yacy ****"
+	echo "**  LOG of       YaCy: DATA/LOG/yacy00.log (and yacy<xx>.log)                **"
+	echo "**  STOP         YaCy: execute stopYACY.sh and wait some seconds             **"
+	echo "**  GET HELP for YaCy: see www.yacy-websearch.net/wiki and www.yacy-forum.de **"
+	echo "*******************************************************************************"
+	echo " >> YaCy started as daemon process. Administration at http://localhost:8080 << "
+	eval $cmdline
+	if [ "$TAILLOG" -eq "1" -a ! "$DEBUG" -eq "1" ];then
+		tail -f DATA/LOG/yacy00.log
+	fi
+fi